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Formatting Instructions
By: Matthew Patterson, the Paranoid Minister on 3/5/2002; 10:52 AM

Publishing pieces on Voices of Unreason is a mostly painless process. However, there are a few things that authors can do to make it easier on the editors hereabouts. The biggest issue is, of course, formatting. It's always easier to do something right the first time than to go back and fix it later, so in the interest of efficiency, here are a few formatting suggestions. (These only work when posting via the web interface. E-mail and Newsgroup guidelines will be available soon.)

How to code your posts



The system does not use any speciality coding, just HTML. Standard HTML coding will always be accepted, as long as you use tags the system recognizes as valid. The system will only accept those tags specifically made valid by the administrators. A list of tags that are valid on this site can be found here. Anything else will be automatically neutered, meaning the < and > will be simply displayed.

Ex: since <sarcasm> is not a valid tag in the system, the word is just automatically displayed and the < and > displayed.

Anything that blinks will not repeat NOT be accepted. Period. Ever. Don't even try it.

In case you're not familiar with the use of HTML, consult one of the following guides: HTML With Style Tutorials, Go2Graphics HTML Tag Dictionary, or my personal favorite,Web Pages That Suck. (Note: If you know of some better HTML tutorials, I'd be delighted if you'd reply to this message with them!)

Carriage returns



If you double space between paragraphs, the system handles it the way you'd expect it: it puts a double space (technically, a <p> tag) between paragraphs. Under ordinary circumstances, single returns in the text entry box are not interpreted as single carriage returns in a message or piece of writing. Example:

<i>But yield who will to their separation,
My object in living is to unite
My avocation and my vocation
As my two eyes make one in sight.</i>


yields

But yield who will to their separation, My object in living is to unite My avocation and my vocation As my two eyes make one in sight.


I didn't use the <br> tag that time. Now watch what happens when I do:

<i>But yield who will to their separation,<br>
My object in living is to unite<br>
My avocation and my vocation<br>
As my two eyes make one in sight.</i>


yields

But yield who will to their separation,
My object in living is to unite
My avocation and my vocation
As my two eyes make one in sight.


See? Works perfectly.

This is especially important for people posting poetry, for if you don't use the <br> tag, it'll all just run together.

Also, putting your text in <pre> tags will cause ALL keystrokes to be interpreted. In this case, single returns will work as line breaks. In many circumstances, putting <pre> at the beginning and </pre> at the end of a poem is a lot easier, since it's only two tags.

Editor's note: this document has been altered from the original by the administrator.

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RE: Formatting Instructions
By: Matthew Patterson, the Paranoid Minister on 6/25/2001; 11:33 PM

Ha, first reply to my own message. Anyway, question: Would you guys prefer the list of accepted tags to be given in a huge vertical list, like it is now, or in a huge paragraph? I find that the vertical list makes it easier to read and find a specific tag, but at the same time it really stretches out the document to obscene lengths. You guys have to read it, which would you prefer?

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RE: Formatting Instructions
By: Chie Theresa Fujioka on 6/26/2001; 2:09 AM

mumble dooki!

i dont mind. the answer is yes. hehe

Ive been using that stuffo fo a whil now u yunguns
ha see? :-p

now then what was the point of me replying... i dont seem to remember.... ah my poor brain, come back to your owner!

and why cant i blink? my eyeeballs hurt after a while... i remember i tried to put a blink tag in once... it didnt work :(

<blink>hahahhahaha</blink> <marquee>hahahhahahahhaha... :-p</marquee>

move your arm up and down
and make that choo choo sound!

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Re: Formatting Instructions
By: Matthew Patterson on 6/26/2001; 2:28 AM

The marquee blink tag is a blight on civilization. I just figure that
anything Captain CAP (http://www.capalert.com) thinks is good web design
must be horrible.



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RE: Formatting Instructions
By: Seth Dillingham on 6/26/2001; 10:45 AM

Editor Matt said:

>In order to insert a single carriage return, you must use >the <br> tag.


Oh really?
Is that so?
I tried to explain to you guys before that there are other ways
of
    making
          sure
                   that
                spacing
      and          line         breaks
are never    -     EVER     - ignored.

;-)

Seth



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RE: Formatting Instructions
By: Matthew Patterson, the Paranoid Minister on 6/26/2001; 3:40 PM

Sure, if you want to use the <tt> tags. Easier to explain if I just tell people to use <br>, though.

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RE: Formatting Instructions
By: Chie Theresa Fujioka on 6/26/2001; 3:48 PM

y o u k n o w....


That Could Have neeB lufesU

W h e n

I saw gnitirw

P o i n t b l a n k

with that ridiculous

heart.

:(



hehe

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RE: Formatting Instructions
By: Seth Dillingham on 6/26/2001; 4:00 PM

On Tuesday, June 26, 2001 at 3:56 PM, Matthew wrote:

>Sure, if you want to use the <tt> tags. Easier to explain if I just
>tell people to use <br>, though.

Nope, it wasn't tt, it was pre. The tt was just to show which text I
was talking about, as it switches the text to a fixed-width font.

I thought it would be a lot easier for the poets to wrap their work in
pre tags, than to put br tags after every line. Two tags, versus
dozens or hundreds.

Seth

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Re: Formatting Instructions
By: Matthew Patterson on 6/26/2001; 5:22 PM

Well, now you've done it. Chie's posts will now be even HARDER to read. ^_^

No, a good idea. I'll stick it in an update tonight. I may start putting
version numbers on it just for fun.


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RE: Formatting Instructions
By: Evan on 6/26/2001; 6:59 PM

I get that sort of problem with my brain too. Sometimes I regret losing my mind, sometimes it can be helpful to have a memory longer than 2 minutes, but I can't seem to do it. The best solution to the memory problem is to bash yourself over the head with something or bang your head against the wall.

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RE: Formatting Instructions
By: Mark Morgan on 6/27/2001; 4:06 PM

Thanks, Matt. I always forget about the <PRE> tag, too. Also, note that these instructions are for posting via the web page. E-mail formatting instructions coming soon.

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RE: Formatting Instructions
By: ScottN on 2/5/2002; 1:42 AM

In addition, if you want to put in a <SARCASM> tag, or anything in <> brackets, you can also use the symbol insertion characters:

&amp; = &
&lt; = <
&gt; = >

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RE: Formatting Instructions
By: Chie Theresa Fujioka on 3/14/2005; 12:22 AM


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                 o
                 c
    k i         a
  s      n   d           d
   i             o
        s   o
          p  i
         d     h
         o     t
           o p


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RE: Formatting Instructions
By: Matthew Patterson on 3/5/2002; 10:53 AM

Fixed a really evil error - there was an "except" rather than "accept" in there.

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RE: Formatting Instructions
By: Peter van Klaveren on 6/5/2002; 11:00 PM



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RE: Formatting Instructions
By: Peter van Klaveren on 6/5/2002; 11:01 PM



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RE: Formatting Instructions
By: Richard Davidson on 6/6/2002; 9:45 PM

Publishing pieces on Voices of Unreason is a mostly pointless process. However, there are a few things that astonauts, and tiny fleas can do to make it easier on the editor's whereabouts. The biggest issue is, of course, fermenting. It's always easier to do something right the first time than to go back and drink lots of vodka, fix it later, misspelling even the simplest words, so in the interest of efficiency, here are a few fermenting suggestions. (These only work when posting via the web interface. E-mail and Newsgroup guidelines will be grounds for prosecution.)

How to post your codes



The system does not use any speciality coding, just HTML, and any type of specialty coding you would like to use. Standard HTML coding will always be accepted, as long as you use tags the system recognizes as valid, post between the hours of 3:00-3:15 am PST, and make enough sandwiches for everybody. The system will only accept those tags specifically made valid by the administrators, or the third grade hackers that like to make this forum theirs, whenever they get bored with transferring people's 401k's into their special Swiss bank accounts. A list of tags that are valid on this site can be found (do not click this link, as you will go back in time) Anything else will be automatically neutered like a stray Republican, meaning the < and > will be simply displayed, in which case we'll all have a good laugh at your expense.

Ex: since <sarcasm> is not a valid tag in the system, the word is just automatically displayed and the < and > displayed.

Anything that blinks will not repeat NOT be accepted. Period. Ever. Don't even try it, although if you do, it will work just fine.

In case you're not familiar with the use of HTML, consult one of the following guides: HTML for Lunatics, Extreme Idiots HTML Tag Dictionary, or my personal favorite,Web Pages That Suck. (Note: If you know of some better HTML tutorials, I'd be delighted if you'd reply to this message with them, you good for nothing know it all freak!)

Carriage returns



If you double space between paragraphs, the system handles it the way you'd expect it: it puts a double space (technically, a <p> tag) between paragraphs. Under ordinary circumstances, single returns in the text entry box are not interpreted as single carriage returns in a message or piece of writing. We did this just to piss you off. Example:

<i>But yield who will to their tie died separation,
My object in living is to unite
My frogs and my vocation
As my two eyes make one in sight of light and fright.</i>


yields

But yield who will to their separation, My object in living is to unite My neanderthal cactus and my vocation As my two eyes make one in sight of the top ten landmarks in Roanoke.


I didn't use the <br> tag that time. Now watch what happens when I do:

<i>But yield who will to their separation,<br>
My object in living is to unite<br>
My syphillis and my vocation<br>
As my two eyes make one in sight of ten men who got loose in the Arctic.</i>


yields

But yield who will to their separation,
My object in living is to unite
My avocation and my vocation
As my two eyes make one in sight.


See? Works perfectly.

This is especially important for people posting bad Chinese poetry, for if you don't use the <br> tag, it'll all just run together, making about as much sense as if you hadn't.

Also, putting your text in <pre> tags will cause ALL keystrokes to be interpreted. In this case, single returns will work as line breaks. In many circumstances, putting <pre> at the beginning and </pre> at the end of a poem is a lot easier, since it's only two tags, which you can purchase in the snack bar on the main mezzanine.

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RE: Formatting Instructions
By: ScottN on 10/4/2002; 4:34 PM



Oh, did that fix the preformatted text above?

By the way, Richard, there are more formatting instructions that can be found here.

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RE: Formatting Instructions
By: Jeff Achuff on 3/11/2005; 3:42 PM

I learned HTML courtesy of Prof. Joe Burns' website, htmlgoodies.com. Simple and easy.

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RE: Formatting Instructions
By: ScottN on 3/13/2005; 11:09 PM

Mark, Can you fix this? Everything after Chie's "loopy" poem above comes out in Courier.

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RE: Formatting Instructions
By: Mark Morgan on 3/14/2005; 12:23 AM

Fixed. For whatever reason Conversant allowed <tt> but didn't autoclose it.

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RE: Formatting Instructions
By: That Girl on 4/17/2005; 1:34 PM

So I have to format this myself? I can't just CUT&PASTE?

Man.

That certainly leans on page count a bit.

Damn, things are about to get short, heh.

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RE: Formatting Instructions
By: Mark Morgan on 4/17/2005; 2:42 PM

>So I have to format this myself? I can't just CUT&PASTE?

That depends. What software are you using to write?


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RE: Formatting Instructions
By: Richard Davidson on 4/18/2005; 10:38 PM

More about carriage returns:

John's Baby shop is currently offering 1/50th of the original price of any carriages bought between February and April of this year, as long as the carriage never left the store, and you paid in gold bullion. That may not sound like much to you, but then you never were much good when it came to raising chickens. Anyway, try the Festered Seaweed in Goat's Blood. It'll make you sick as a three month old Ostrich in a boot store, but your friends will be impressed, and so will your Congressman.



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